January 19, 2005

Why Communism doesn't work...

From Quotes of the Day:

Frank Zappa
"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."

(that should probably be people in industrialised capitalist societies but I'm being churlish :) )

Posted by Paul Goodison at January 19, 2005 09:57 AM | TrackBack


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Communism doesn't work economically because the fact that the government is in complete control of all production and everyone gets the same no matter how hard they work or how lazy they are. Thus the incentive to work decreases dramatically. The country's wealth goes down, shortages occur, no inventions are produced (as the government would steal them away anyway, leaving no incentive) and the economy eventually collapses. Just look at the Soviet Union. Of course the fact that they were a harsh totalitarian dictatorship didn't help things much with them either. Eventually China will surely suffer the same fate. What amazes me is that there are even comunists today, even in the United States! Though they are, they are few, and communism is dying. Hooray!

Posted by: jimmyman at February 22, 2005 02:35 AM

Communism is the bomb because nobody gets to become a Bill Gates and everybody is equal and everyone has a good life and the lazy people get put to jail and the hardworking people get extra rewards and production is really high and so you suck and communism is the best and capitalism stinks like hell and you suck because you're a capitalist.

Posted by: Ukrainian Commie at March 2, 2005 06:00 PM

LOL, COMMIE!!!! That's why Communism is failing so miserably to meet its promises. That's why the Soviet Union collapsed. That's communist countries experience widespread poverty and starvation, because their governments are too greedy to distribute the wealth back to the people and keep it for themselves! That's why we have so many people migrating to the U.S., to escape the crappy communist dictatorships. Sure, communism is a beautiful thought and a pleasant idea, but it doesn't work because people are crappy and governments are crooked!!!!

Posted by: jimmyman at March 5, 2005 04:29 PM

P.S.- If the idea that you have produced ever works out, I will be a full fledged communist and a 100% proponent of communism!

Posted by: jimmyman at March 5, 2005 04:31 PM

Marx formulated the idea of traditional communism at the peak of the industrial revolution. During which time things like labor unions, minimum wages, etc... had yet to come into exsistence. So theoretically the only way to provide justice for the proletarians was to overthrow the industrialists and form a new form of government-- communism. Keep in mind that Marx's intended communism to be used in advanced industrial nations, but the only countries that made use of communism were countries that were still stuck in the Middle Ages. Communism simply doesn't work the way Marx intended it because we live in a fallen world where the motto of "survival of the fittest" is engrained into the minds of everyone no matter where you live. Therefore the people who ultimately form the governments to these so-called communist countries, which would probably have Marx turning in his grave, realize the power they ultimately have and maybe will initially use it for the "good" of the nation but will ultimately use it for their own means.

Posted by: Anon at April 13, 2005 02:34 AM

What you guys are discussing is not communism. You're discussing Stalinism and Socialism. In true communism, there would be no system of government, no "economy", only a society of people striving to improve the world around them.

The theory of a "Communist revolution" is actually one of a Socialist revolution, followed by the collapse of government. A capitalist society will collapse due to extreme concentration of wealth, at which time the lower classes of society rise up and take what's rightfully theirs: money, power, and control of production. What would follow would be a brief period of fascism where the majority (formerly poor workers) govern the minority (the formerly rich capitalists). The government would strive for the disolution of capitalism by paying people for how much work they do, not based upon supply and demand. At first people would only take what they need and would be paid according to the amount of work they do. Soon after, a government would no longer become necessary and small cities would become self-sustaining. The new society would develop and discover new technologies the Capitalists had been holding back (alternate energy), and everyone would be able to work according to his abilities. This means someone who is a good painter would become an artist, someone who understands computers would fix them, etc. When people work for what they're good at and what they enjoy, they would recieve according to their needs. Thus, there is never any surplus of wealth, and never any concentration of wealth. Money becomes meaningless and ceases to exist. When everyone takes what they need, the human race is able to develop their skills fully and together. With this, a new age of human development is created. Crime and vice disappear, as there's no reason to steal what you can happily get for "free" by contributing to society by taking a profession you enjoy.

Posted by: David at April 27, 2005 05:54 PM

Communism as you describe it is not communism as it should and very well could be practiced.

Posted by: David at April 27, 2005 06:12 PM

I CANT believe that people can still argue communism. Has history taught you nothing...its a good idea in theory but it clearly doesnt work. What is so wrong with capitalisum? the harder you work the more you get? apparently it works and the United states has proven that. Everyone is given the oppurtunity to be successful its a matter of using the oppurtunity, democracy has created a society where people have the choice and the utilities to achieve great things... and the motivation for that matter... welcome to the real world my friends

Posted by: Rachelle at October 4, 2005 05:46 AM

um...i dont know much about communism but i need to write a historical essay on the fall of the soviet union
can anyone give me some good ideas of topics i can delve into to write about? if soo pleasssse answer back soon
thank you so much

Posted by: jenn at February 13, 2006 08:02 AM

In communism, it always seems the citizens are poor and the government is rich. Here is where the problem of communism lies. I personally believe in equality throughout all. Equality in citizens and government. Which means, the government gets absolutely no special treatment. They run our country, but they're citizens too. But they seem to believe they're somehow bigger and better than us. And that sticks in communism. You see, that's where communism fails. The citizens are poor and the government is rich. If it were true communism, then the government would have no more money than the citizens do. It's all distributed EQUALLY.

Now, I agree with communism because of the fact that in communism, there is no upper or middle or lower class like there is here. People suffer here. People are homeless and die. In communism, no one is homeless, no one starves. Everyone gets exactly what they need to survive.

What about incentive to work you ask? I don't agree in a dictatorship whereupon you rule your people and are able to kill those who don't work hard enough. But I do understand that the will to work still doesn't exist. And I also understand why it doesn't exist. Because a janitor in McDonald's or something would make as much money as a physician or something. So I have an idea of how to make it work, but it would be a LONG description. I can't put it now because I don't have enough time. But what I'm basically saying is that if you think for long enough and put enough energy into it, then you can truly make communism work. It only hasn't worked in the past because no one has truly used communism in a good way.

That's all I have to say for now. I'll be back later to describe my idea for a better communism.

Thanks.

Posted by: Brian Misled at March 5, 2006 04:03 PM
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